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Most Democrats are crazy
Talya I agree with a great majority of what you said however I do have a few points for your consideration:

"I think the United Nations is a biased, anti-American, and ineffectual organization that needs to be eliminated (and not supported by American tax dollars)."

Yes, Yes, Yes, and NO. Talya, you know just as well as I that the UN is a necessary international body. Despite its drawbacks (which I will get into in a minute) it does a great deal of good in the world, you should know this especially from your International Health Class. The UN has been instrumental in tackling environmental, and health issues and can often be an important arbitrator.

The UN was founded on good principles and reflects a strong set of moral virtues that respects both moral and civil rights. If we value the rule of law, including those set forth by the UN to dictate International Law, then we must respect it and hold ourselves to its standards. The problem with the UN is not with its structure, or the virtues it extols, the problem is that opportunistic (and likewise corrupt) officials and States have abused the rule of law, manipulating it in a biased fashion to pursue their own political agendas. For example, the Convention Against Torture is an excellent treaty; any ethical person recognizes that torture is disgusting and should be outlawed. However, corruption occurs when the world community (especially the Arab League) uses this convention to single out and falsely attack Israel despite its compliance with the Convention; while single-handedly ignoring countless other nations that practice similar or often times worse acts of degrading treatment. That is just plain biased and unfair and can only be likened to how justice was dolled out to Blacks in the old segregated South.

The point is that the UN mandated institutions and laws in place are good, however justice is administered unfairly in a biased fashion by corrupt (and anti-Semitic, anti-American, anti-Western) officials. What we need to do is excise the corruption from the UN and then re-evaluate its terms before we decide its place in the world.

"I think waiting for support from Germany and France, each of which is financially supported by oil producing states and each of which has a poor history in the subject of war and alliances with the United States, is stupid and dangerous."

I would be careful with your criticism, we are just as tied to oil as those two countries, except we are tied to Saudi Oil, not Saddam's Oil - either way it's picking a poison. Again the only way to exonerate ourselves is to put pressure on the Saudis to stop funding terror and Islamist institutions (most scholars suggest that they helped fund and popularize much of the Islamic radicalism we see now), either that or find alternative fuels so we can finally divest from Saudi interests. This is not to let Germany or France of the hook - they both have a lot to apologize for, most recently France and their disgusting celebration of Arafat as a peaceful statesmen when in reality he is nothing but a lowly, dirty terrorist.

"I believe in free speech – including the right to put signs on my private property supporting my candidate. That fundamental right to free speech was violated by Democrats when they trespassed and battered, ruined, and stole my first three Bush signs; they finally gave up with the fourth."

Please, both sides pulled this crap - I saw Kerry, Bush, and even local candidates signs disgraced. It can't be attributed to any one side, but it does show that people become so extreme in their ideology that they put it above common sense or basic human dignity.

"The intolerance that Democrats have of those with an opposing opinion is astounding, considering that they are supposedly the party more tolerant of oppressed minorities."

Yes, but you prefaced this with a paragraph referring to Democrats "[you] met." A small sampling of the population doesn't represent the whole - basic statistics can tell you that.

I think overall based on media reports etc. this particular election has been volatile ON BOTH SIDES, particularly with the Democrats because quite frankly they have their backs against the wall and now they are on the offensive, whenever you are on the offensive there is the appearance of greater intensity or might, this is true in sports, war and politics. And lets be honest, the best way to win in politics when you are on the offensive is to use attack ads, its easy to hurl attacks and hope they stick, while its much more difficult to defend attacks (no matter how baseless they are).

"So here’s my advice to those Democrats in mourning. Accept who is president and move on with your life. That means you have to stop insulting my compatriots, President Bush, and myself. It reflects your immaturity and bitterness. If you want to influence others, do so with well-reasoned arguments, not abuse. Be well rounded and interesting. Listen to others with an open mind – though I understand it might be rusty. Eliminate your paranoia and conspiracy theories. Don’t dwell on the past; look toward the future. Accept the situation and, lastly, if you want to leave the country as a result of the election, please by all means, shut up and go."

As Bill Mahr suggests, a true liberal will "stay and work even harder to change this country for the better." A lesson to be learned from this election is that the Democrats have lost touch with the electorate and have gone too far to the left. Tactics by the extremist left Hollywood, Michael Moore, European Elites and countless Media Outlets (CBS anyone?) have effectively backfired. The Democrats are a good party if they want to succeed they need to dump their extremist left elements and move back towards the middle of the political spectrum. They also need to learn that America wants a president that will be strong on the International scene, they don't want someone that will bend over backwards for Islamist, European or UN thugs. That is why George Bush won, and Kerry lost. If Kerry had adopted a conservative stance towards international policy he would have slaughtered George Bush, until the Democrats learn that they will continue to fail.

-Jeff

Jeff -- the benefits of the UN is greatly outweighed by its evil. An organization with farcical legislative powers and evil more farcical "moral force" that has no guiding principals and that has been sabotaged by the enemies of freedom and democracy. The vote of Sudan counts equally with the vote of Australia. The vote of the Seychelles counts the same as the vote of India and its 1,000,000,000 citizens.

The flag of the UN is at half-staff today for Arafat. It is a counter-productive organization. In the war on terror, at best, the UN is neutral. In my personal view, it is actually the enemy -- and we are funding the damn thing.

Couldn't an alternative organization be set up to coordinate global health issues, etc.? One that wouldn't be captured by evil and corruption?

Second point -- oil is fungible. We get the vast majority of our oil from Venezuela, Nigeria and the North Sea, not the Saudis. But markets are markets, so all oil-producing states effect everyone. Still, our politicians are not directly bribed by "Oil for Food" shipments, unlike those of say, France (the last abode of Arafat).

Also, it is funny you should quote Bill Maher today. He's having a pretty rough day!

He's a rather interesting sort of liberal (at least if you listen to his ex-Centerfold ex-girlfriend).
See attached link: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1111041coco1.html

There are angry leftists as well as angry rightists. Both believe that they have a monopoly on the truth. In this cycle, it has been the angry leftists that have the media's ear. And it is the angry leftists that have infiltrated our community. Like Talya, I am extremely tired of hearing from them.

Tayla:

**First of all, my name is spelled Talya.

As one of those crazy Democrats, I found it rather interesting reading as you spoke of everything that is wrong with our party and how we do all of the bashing....while declaring on the other hand that people have a right to their beliefs which makes them stupid for not believing the way you do.

**I hope you also noted that I tried to point out that it is NOT all Democrats (hence the title). To avoid repitition, I do appreciate Democrats, in fact, I appreciate all people who take the time to vote. It is the constant insults and belief in the Republicans' manipulation of the election that I'm tired of hearing. I never once in my article said it was stupid to believe differently from me. In fact, that's what makes this country great - the fact that people DO think and believe differently from me.

Well,I live in ____ which is Bush country and I'm telling you right now that it took a lot of courage to stand up for what we believe and I found the same sort of attitudes during the elections that you seem to have encountered... Refusal to even discuss or listen to views and admitting that they wouldn't even watch or listen to the Democrats point of view.

**Again, I am an Independent, and noted that Republicans did the same thing. It was a dirty fight on both sides, though I must say that from experience, it was much dirtier and meaner from the Democratic side, and this was from a Democratic state (yes, I live in Kerry country).

I watched both sides, all stations, all debates and still believed in my canidate and voted my choice (which was my right not my ignorance) and for that I have been called.... Crazy, asked to shut up or leave the country, and even been told by the media that Democrats are Godless people.

**I cannot apologize for those who acted in that manner, though I know that they are not the majority of the party. I would figure you would then understand why I am justified in where I am coming from.

I for once would like to state that your party won the election and yet you still seem bitter toward our nation and our party. If we won, would you have instantly thrown your convictions out the window?....I doubt it. If so, then your convictions were only superficial and didn't truly reflect your beliefs.

**Again, let me emphasize that I am an Independent. The Republicans won the election. Yes, I am grateful for that, but NO, I am not bitter. I never was, nor will I ever be. I am simply tired and upset with people's treatment of me, just as you were. I tried not to bring up politics with people (especially Dems) and nevertheless I would be constantly and ceaselessy targeted - even after the election. It's not me that needs to get over things, it's the Dems who continue the battering. When people told me who they voted for, even if it was Kerry, I thanked them for voting. I even comforted those who were upset after the election. It is the Dems who were rude and inconsiderate to me whom I am sick of. That is why I defined "crazy" in that manner.

Our country is clearly divided on the way we view the path our nation should take. That was clearly seen from the numbers, do you choose to ignore the rest of the nation? Apparently so, which is the response that I have received from most Republicans.

**I would appreciate not being lumped in with other Republicans (as I did not lump you in with other Dems) since I am not your average Republican, nor am I a Republican at all. My article is a reflection of my frustration with those Dems who ARE nuts (you must admit that there are crazy ones out there; you admitted you yourself are one). This wasn't a personal attack against you but I must wonder why you would take it as one and why you would classify yourself as a crazy Democrat.

I believe your advise is for us not to be bitter and quit insulting you as you say we have rusty minds and should shut up and leave. Well, yes we live in the present, but I'm sorry I will never forget the past.

**Again, I was addressing "Most Dems" to not be bitter and to stop insulting me. Those with rusty minds would be those who would insult others for their right to vote. Those who voted Democratic and had a good reason SHOULD vote Democratic and I commend them (as I mentioned in my article).
By the way, remember the past? I agree that people should never forget and learn from our history, but exactly what past are you referring to?

Many lives have been lost to protect our freedom that I hold dear and I will always believe that our world can be improved. I will not just SHUT UP or leave, this is my country also.

**I feel like I am repeating myself. Those who ought to shut up and leave are those who believe I have no right to my opinion, who believe that I am a moron or ignorant. I want to hear opposing opinions. I want to learn from other people's beliefs. I never asked intelligent people to shut up. If you look at the end, I mentioned that people ought to try and change minds with "reasonable arguments".

I will pray nightly that our country can come together again and be united as it should be, but in doing so I will not try to step on your right to your beliefs for that is what our country is about....rights for everyone....not just Repulicians.

**Finally, we agree (though again, let me point out that I'm speaking from an INDEPENDENT's point of view).

Yes, we would have preferred to win but we didn't. America chose to keep following the same path. That we may have our doubts is only natural. But your right, Bush is our president and My prayers will be that you and the other Republicians have chosen the right path....for believe it or not WE LOVE our country also and we aren't leaving.

**I know that Dems love our country. I never disputed that. I have had intelligent conversations with Dems where we agree on many politics and they simply believed that Kerry would do a better job and I didn't. At the end of the conversation we agreed to disagree but we respected each other for voting who we believed could do a better job. THOSE Dems I respect. The ones who spout (not past tense) that Republicans manipulated the election and continue to insult me do not deserve my respect. Those are the ones who do not understand this country and should leave.

We are here to stay and quite frankly it is just something you will have to deal with, but if you are like the Republicians I have met you will continue to berate us, ignore our intelligence as you claim we ignore yours and stoop to claiming all of our beliefs or worthless.

**Again, I am an Independent. I only lash out at those Dems who insult me and do not have a clue as to what this country stands for. I only berate those who attack me first, and only then when they're arguments are unreasonable or non-existent. I know plenty of Dems who are reasonable, intelligent, and eloquent. I appreciate what they add to this country and would not WANT them to leave. Again, that is what makes this country so great and what promotes new and creative ideas and solutions to problems.

I aplogize for any wrong doing that someone has done to you while you chose your path to the polls, I just wish someone would consider doing the same for us CRAZY, rusty minded Democrats.

**I appreciate your apology and extend mine to you. Again though, please note, I did not address this article to ALL Dems, only those who fall under the descriptions I mentioned. All Dems are NOT crazy; some are quite intelligent and interesting to speak with. But there are some (and in my experience, more rather than less) that are paranoid, lemmings, and obsessed with conspiracy theories. As I have before, I will admit there are some Republicans that shouldn't behave certain ways, but why can't you admit the same about Democrats?

**I appreciate your response and was excited to see it. I am glad you took the time to answer my article. If I were as crazy as some Dems, I may have just deleted it, but I am open to other ideas so thank you and I hope to hear from you soon.

You align yourself with the nobility of higher causes – strong men making strong decisions, patriots protecting freedom of speech, countrymen preserving democratic ideals. But this nobility is a farce that even you cannot maintain. It crumbles like any poorly constructed artifice, as you call almost half the country paranoid and intolerant, and tell them they can shut up and leave.

Imagine if Abraham Lincoln, whose words you evoke (the original uniter-not-a-divider), had suffered from your same weakness.

“Liberals” like “conservatives” do not share the same mind, ideals, morals and beliefs. “Liberals” like “conservatives” comprise a diverse range of individuals. To lump individuals in either group with the most extreme members of their party is as naïve as it is erroneous and offensive.

Both groups do and did great things. They also do and did terrible things. Disliking someone else’s mistakes does not exonerate your group from the mistakes it has made, or exonerate you from compounding these mistakes with your own singlemindedness. Disliking someone else’s beliefs does not devalue those beliefs or make them wrong, immoral or unpatriotic.

Please do not confuse your petulance with the nobility your words evoke. You, like many people this election, are tired and frustrated that people would wholeheartedly support something to which you are diametrically opposed. But do not make the mistake of believing that your half-researched arguments are any better than any other layman’s half-researched arguments. They are just different.

In the end, we vote with our guts and whom we trust to make the best decisions, whether we agree or not. Every issue presented in this election has existed before. Few support every issue a candidate puts forth. No vote is a mandate for every word, idea or policy presented by a candidate. No argument is any more valid than any other argument – only different.

The Bush vote did not win patriotism, liberty or freedom of speech for one party. You do not own these high minded ideals. However, you do sully them when you attach your poorly hidden pedestrian hatreds and prejudices. You only contribute to the divide when you dress your shrillness with pomposity and confuse your frustration with wisdom. Your pettiness and negativity is not better than another person’s. It is just your own.